Should students be required to pass all coursework before continuing to the next grade level>
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Created on: 09/10/11 12:09 PM
Replies: 9
cheezehead
Joined: 09/10/11 / Posts: 5
WorokyaDuncan
Joined: 09/13/11 / Posts: 1
RE: Promotion Requirements?
09/13/11 1:43 PM
There's a part of me that feels like that is a backwards question. Before we can discuss promotion requirements, I think that schools and education in general has to be honest about whether or not we're teaching what we should. We're focusing on how behind we are in comparison to other countries, but we're not necessarily doing what they're doing to promote student learning. Are our standards what they should be? Are our teachers properly trained prior to being hired? When hired, are professional developments tailored toward their strengths and weaknesses?
Once we've done that, as well as reviewed standards, ensured horizontal and vertical alignment, then we won't have to feel guilty about promotional requirements. A school or teacher won't think twice about promoting or not promoting a child IF the child has gotten or been given the full opportunity to learn (that includes adequate SPED where necessary).
But, back to your question, I think students should be required to pass all coursework prior to graduating or being promoted. It is the least we can do to approach a standard of teaching and learning.
M9878
Joined: 09/18/11 / Posts: 1
RE: Promotion Requirements?
09/18/11 9:03 AM
In response to the question about passing all coursework before passing to the next grade level I have this to say: A high school diploma is only as valuable as the work that went into getting it. If we allow students to progress from one grade to the next without having met the standards of that grade level then we are setting up a system in which students are more likely to fail AND a system in which getting a public school education becomes more about "sticking it out" then actually meeting the standards. I absolutely believe that students should be held to the standards set forth at each particular grade level and if they are not met then there is no question that the students does NOT progress to the next level. Period. For situations where student age becomes an issue (say a 16 year old in the 5th grade) then there must be an alternative placement in place for those students.
I also believe that there should be an alternative to the high school diploma. For students who complete high school under a modified curriculum (SPED, ELL), a full-blown high school diploma should NOT be awarded. It cheapens the work done by everyone else if students who do 2nd grade work in the 12th grade are getting diplomas. For those students a "certificate of completion" or something like that should be awarded.
The age of student accountability for performance must dawn or we will continue to pump out generation after generation of mediocre students.
power26
Joined: 09/14/11 / Posts: 3
RE: Promotion Requirements?
09/19/11 12:41 PM
Students should be required to pass all coursework before continuing to the next grade level. The questions is, are they being taught at grade level? My frustration as parent is that my child is not even learning what he should at grade level. The school doesn't do spelling test, they don't correct mistakes, and they cram for the state tests right before they happen. I was specifically told by his teacher not to correct his homework. They were suppose to correct their own homework. I totally disagree with this method. I spent most of his 3 grade teaching him the difference between a "d" and a "b". I believe that was suppose to be his teachers job. I had to start giving him spelling test on top of his homework because he didn't know how to spell anything. I took a standard 3rd grade spelling list and gave it to him. He didn't know how to spell most of them. I totally get that parents need to be teachers as well but I feel like Im just trying to get my kid caught up.
dham75
Joined: 09/20/11 / Posts: 1
RE: Promotion Requirements?
09/20/11 6:24 PM
As a previous classroom teacher, I would like to state that teaching toward the test is what drove me out of the classroom and into teaching music. I could not stand it when I was called into the principal's office to go over the classroom scores and they looked at the class average, not how far each student had come. Now the state is requiring that teachers measure each student's PROGRESS that year, not if they are on grade level. I REALLY feel that we have given up the foudations of spelling because they don't teach phonics anymore, or memorization of the math facts. We have college students who are taking prep classes in math and are using their calculators to compute multiplication facts that should have been memorized. We need to go back to the basics, and yet keep the fun things that students enjoy! They need REAL reading material, not fictious entertainment all the time, that relates to their world!
djg
Joined: 09/23/11 / Posts: 5
RE: Promotion Requirements?
09/23/11 2:09 PM
There should be some type of standards for promotion however we also have to take into account that every student will not become a rocket scientist. We have to recognize differences in aptitude among students. We have a community public education system that requires acceptance of all students even if they have very little aptitude or motivation for academics.
alem124max
Joined: 12/26/11 / Posts: 1
tjimison
Joined: 09/26/11 / Posts: 8
teachermant
Joined: 09/22/11 / Posts: 27
trimble82
Joined: 09/25/12 / Posts: 1
RE: Promotion Requirements?
09/25/12 4:47 AM
in every segment of a vocation there are standards that individuals must meet.
The same ought to be true in school.
Many of the students now in school would work much harder to learn if they knew there promotion to the next grade dependend on how well they learned this years material.
Parents would take more interest in their childs school work if they understood that the child needed to learn to be promoted to the next grade,
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